Toyota Tundra rolls over three competitors

[Cali Tundra]

Originally Posted by Mickey

US Navy enlisted. I worked in Combat (CIC) We operated radars communications controlled A/C for intercepts and surface surveillance, and Navigation. I also had NEC's for the programming and launching of Tomahawk and Harpoon missiles.

Mickey, sounds to me like your an OS man. So am I. I have the Harpoon NEC too.

[denutto]

Originally Posted by Mickey

Isn't that we suspect what maker the person has my friend it's the way you come out with it. From the start guy no feelings hurt here. I consider the source. My friend cotter pins have been on ball joints and wheel bearings probably before you were born. I gave you credit thinking you knew this like myself but my wrong in giving you any credit what so ever. Have you heard of McDonalds? I'm sure you must have had a coffee. But as usual you read what you want. When you rotate your tires and tighten your lug nuts do you check them a 100 miles later to see if they are still tight? By the way who cares what you like. As usual you read just the part you wanted out of Consumer Reports. Ooh yeahh who wrote who a pm for a truce? When you decide to come out of your ignorance then we may have an intelligent conversation. Highly unlikely but who knows?

The orginal message wasnt even to you. I was agreeing with you about GM. it all comes together. Forget what some idiot was saying, didnt we have a some comments about 1/2 ton vs 3/4 thats what it was all about. Why dont you say anything to him? Denutjob nothing was ment for you. But you want to make some ignorant comments. Everyone takes everything so personal. For all you guys could know im a doctor or im a walmart greeter. I could drive a BMW or a KIA or better yet a skateboard. All I said was produce some facts. But im the loser I dont have to hide behind some video of childish bumper pulls. Mickey good job cotter pins have been around longer than 1974. Dont be pissed at me about consumer reports and the others I didnt write it. But I will get blamed for it though. Face it you bought what you bought.
Originally Posted by Mickey
Denutto had you peg from the begining when you sat idle for 20 minutes waiting for Dez or myself to reply. Mickey you sat there waiting, get a life. Ever heard of just leaving a computer logged on to the net just open on a page. Its called high speed net you can do that. Thats pretty funny should do it everyday you jackasses will sit there and wait. Like I said before produce facts, I have and no one can answer them. Hey you dont want to do torque checks thats on you, if the only torque check I have is lug nuts, I dont have anything to worry about. I guess other manufactures did it right. Mickey stop hiding behind the tow hook on the 150, if thats all you can come up. Why dont you try to make a comment about Ford having that weight dropped in the bed from a Helo? Well I have to get back to work, yhea you think I do this on my free time. Remeber FACTS.

[ramoine]

Well all I can say is , what were we talking about in this thread ?

[Mickey]

Originally Posted by Cali Tundra

Mickey, sounds to me like your an OS man. So am I. I have the Harpoon NEC too.

Yes I was. OS1 (SW/AW)USN

[Mickey]

Originally Posted by denutto

The orginal message wasnt even to you. I was agreeing with you about GM. it all comes together. Forget what some idiot was saying, didnt we have a some comments about 1/2 ton vs 3/4 thats what it was all about. Why dont you say anything to him? Denutjob nothing was ment for you. But you want to make some ignorant comments. Everyone takes everything so personal. For all you guys could know im a doctor or im a walmart greeter. I could drive a BMW or a KIA or better yet a skateboard. All I said was produce some facts. But im the loser I dont have to hide behind some video of childish bumper pulls. Mickey good job cotter pins have been around longer than 1974. Dont be pissed at me about consumer reports and the others I didnt write it. But I will get blamed for it though. Face it you bought what you bought.
Originally Posted by Mickey
Denutto had you peg from the begining when you sat idle for 20 minutes waiting for Dez or myself to reply. Mickey you sat there waiting, get a life. Ever heard of just leaving a computer logged on to the net just open on a page. Its called high speed net you can do that. Thats pretty funny should do it everyday you jackasses will sit there and wait. Like I said before produce facts, I have and no one can answer them. Hey you dont want to do torque checks thats on you, if the only torque check I have is lug nuts, I dont have anything to worry about. I guess other manufactures did it right. Mickey stop hiding behind the tow hook on the 150, if thats all you can come up. Why dont you try to make a comment about Ford having that weight dropped in the bed from a Helo? Well I have to get back to work, yhea you think I do this on my free time. Remeber FACTS.

I left ford out of it becasue I have no use for one. I had 3 fords and everyone was in the shop way too much for my taste. Yes we can talk about the 97 Thunderbird had it for 5 years and if I'm not right 27 times in the shop. Had it 2 days and had to go to the shop and fix the cruise control. Not to mention the top mechanics Ford has. The service advisor and tech tells me that it's suppose to slow down climbing a hill? News Flash my 92 Sonoma had cruise control and it made it with no problems down the same interstate. Well the start of my Ford relationship. SHould I mention the power window problems Ford has. Unbelieveable that all 3 fords I had, had this issue on all windows. Can you say DEFECT. Rumble strip on tranny on 97 T-Bird. The only fix was to use synthetic oil in the torque but since it was synthtetic it costs $125 even under warranty. Did I mention rear bearing issue along with 5 recalls on T-Bird? 3 recalls on 03 Crown Vic. Had it 4 years and in shop 18-20 times. 2x I can't be sure when they tell you to recycle your engine 8 times. This was also on the truck. Did I ever mention Check engine light. T-bird 4x 2 o2 sensors and the 2 cannisters. Funny when you replace one the other goes out within a week. How bright are the tech at ford? Well lets blame lowjack for the check engine light. No I'm wrong I don't know and along with my wife we don't know how to fill a tank up. Not to mention we had the vehicles 9 months and 1 year respectively for the check engine lights. 10x for that silly check engine light on the truck. Just to be told they can't fix it. Imagine that BUILT FORD TOUGH no one can fix it. I only had the truck 3 years and the way I was treated by the ford people I will never look that way and Chevy also. I would by a Dodge before a ford or chevy. These are the facts you don't want to hear. They're documented and I still have a copy of all service orders. What company jerry rigs a wire outside the harness to make a sensor worked? Especially when that didn't fix the problem. You got it BUILT FORD TOUGH. Just like all the points you listed before bad about a Tundra well I have the same for you too friend. As far as waiting for your reply I notice what hour you wrote it and I didn't reply and moved on to another tread. Oh yeah that's the internet duhh other treads duuhhh. If you're so intelligent look at the other treads and you will see that night I didn't waste the time for you. I was on other treads and just went back to see if you still had something to say. You'r right I'm to blame about buying a truck that stays on the road and if you're so pissed about it which you are that's why you're here it's not my fault when you look in that mirror and you see all DONKEY.

[denutto]

Originally Posted by Possum

(1) I have a 4x4 5.7 and I like it. (2)When the time comes that I don't like it as much as something else, I'll buy something else. (3)I've already dumped 2 Fords, 1 Chevy, 1 Nissan, and 1 Jeep - all before they were paid-off; just because they pissed me-off. (4)It's none of your business what I drive. (5) It's none of my business to worry about what puts your panties in a wad (6)This is a forum for Tundra owners /Tundra-curious. (7)constructive criticism has its place. (8) Hostile ranting from non-owners reflects on its source and is best redirected to affirmative statements on an appropriate site.

Isnt the name of this tread "TOYOTA TUNDRA ROLLS OVER THREE COMPETITORS"? So wheres the facts, nobody can produce them. (8) Hostile ranting from non-owners reflects on its source and is best redirected to affirmative statements on an appropriate site. Im not hostile theres a tread with a reward to who ever finds a BMW and does somthing to it because the guy with the tundra couldnt drive. Thats real mature. I dont give three shakes about any of you but if your going to produce a thread, produce the facts. See im Tundra curious I just want to know the facts. I list the facts of why they dont. They are facts and most of them come from thius website "dealership and truck problems". So if you dont like it maybe you need to change the name of the thread. So stop hiding behind your ever so ignorant comments and get to the facts.

[denutto]

Originally Posted by Mickey

I left ford out of it becasue I have no use for one. I had 3 fords and everyone was in the shop way too much for my taste. Yes we can talk about the 97 Thunderbird had it for 5 years and if I'm not right 27 times in the shop. Had it 2 days and had to go to the shop and fix the cruise control. Not to mention the top mechanics Ford has. The service advisor and tech tells me that it's suppose to slow down climbing a hill? News Flash my 92 Sonoma had cruise control and it made it with no problems down the same interstate. Well the start of my Ford relationship. SHould I mention the power window problems Ford has. Unbelieveable that all 3 fords I had, had this issue on all windows. Can you say DEFECT. Rumble strip on tranny on 97 T-Bird. The only fix was to use synthetic oil in the torque but since it was synthtetic it costs $125 even under warranty. Did I mention rear bearing issue along with 5 recalls on T-Bird? 3 recalls on 03 Crown Vic. Had it 4 years and in shop 18-20 times. 2x I can't be sure when they tell you to recycle your engine 8 times. This was also on the truck. Did I ever mention Check engine light. T-bird 4x 2 o2 sensors and the 2 cannisters. Funny when you replace one the other goes out within a week. How bright are the tech at ford? Well lets blame lowjack for the check engine light. No I'm wrong I don't know and along with my wife we don't know how to fill a tank up. Not to mention we had the vehicles 9 months and 1 year respectively for the check engine lights. 10x for that silly check engine light on the truck. Just to be told they can't fix it. Imagine that BUILT FORD TOUGH no one can fix it. I only had the truck 3 years and the way I was treated by the ford people I will never look that way and Chevy also. I would by a Dodge before a ford or chevy. These are the facts you don't want to hear. They're documented and I still have a copy of all service orders. What company jerry rigs a wire outside the harness to make a sensor worked? Especially when that didn't fix the problem. You got it BUILT FORD TOUGH. Just like all the points you listed before bad about a Tundra well I have the same for you too friend. As far as waiting for your reply I notice what hour you wrote it and I didn't reply and moved on to another tread. Oh yeah that's the internet duhh other treads duuhhh. If you're so intelligent look at the other treads and you will see that night I didn't waste the time for you. I was on other treads and just went back to see if you still had something to say. You'r right I'm to blame about buying a truck that stays on the road and if you're so pissed about it which you are that's why you're here it's not my fault when you look in that mirror and you see all DONKEY.

Check it out I dont have time to waste on your ignorant comments.. The name of the thread is "TOYOTA TUNDRA ROLLS OVER THREE COMPETITORS" Got any facts to back that up besides your feebleminded comments. So far the Tundra is the is the only 1/2t to have a predicted relibilty of MUCH WORSE THAN AVERAGE.

So simpleton you got hosed by FORD and CHEVY once and continued to purchase their vehicles. Thank you!!!! Thats says everything anyone should need to know about you. Your a saleman dream come true.. doltish, dull, dumb, fatheaded, half-witted, ignorant, imbecilic, impassive, lethargic, numskulled, obtuse, phlegmatic, simple, slow, slow-witted, sluggish, stolid, thick, torpid= DUMB

FACTS ANYONE HAVE THEM??? DIDN'T THINK SO!

[Mickey]

Originally Posted by denutto

Check it out I dont have time to waste on your ignorant comments.. The name of the thread is "TOYOTA TUNDRA ROLLS OVER THREE COMPETITORS" Got any facts to back that up besides your feebleminded comments. So far the Tundra is the is the only 1/2t to have a predicted relibilty of MUCH WORSE THAN AVERAGE.

So simpleton you got hosed by FORD and CHEVY once and continued to purchase their vehicles. Thank you!!!! Thats says everything anyone should need to know about you. Your a saleman dream come true.. doltish, dull, dumb, fatheaded, half-witted, ignorant, imbecilic, impassive, lethargic, numskulled, obtuse, phlegmatic, simple, slow, slow-witted, sluggish, stolid, thick, torpid= DUMB

FACTS ANYONE HAVE THEM??? DIDN'T THINK SO!

The fact of the matter you are an idiot. You just prove yourself. The fact of the matter is you aren't intrested in anything but yourself Kid. If you want to use the treads on here as facts then face the fact jack that other people have facts about your famous 3. NOW if you can see your way up one tread from here that Dascrow put on then you will see the other 3 been rolled over in the desert. But since you love to come here and don't care what people write then please let the door hit your a** on the way out. Look who's ranting above. The fact is why do ford have 4 recalls on there 2008? 1 recall on 2007? Have you looked at Consumer Reports are did someone had to read it for you? Ford didn't rank too high. I won't go further into it since you're so good at what you do. I know now why you like ballon rides. You have so much hot air inside you need to find a better release.

[Mickey]

Originally Posted by denutto

Isnt the name of this tread "TOYOTA TUNDRA ROLLS OVER THREE COMPETITORS"? So wheres the facts, nobody can produce them. (8) Hostile ranting from non-owners reflects on its source and is best redirected to affirmative statements on an appropriate site. Im not hostile theres a tread with a reward to who ever finds a BMW and does somthing to it because the guy with the tundra couldnt drive. Thats real mature. I dont give three shakes about any of you but if your going to produce a thread, produce the facts. See im Tundra curious I just want to know the facts. I list the facts of why they dont. They are facts and most of them come from thius website "dealership and truck problems". So if you dont like it maybe you need to change the name of the thread. So stop hiding behind your ever so ignorant comments and get to the facts.

The funny thing about your rant and raving you stated you have a degree in aeronautical science. You do have a lot of gumption to call someone not mature when you come here and you know damn well you're not intrested in a Tundra. Now who is real mature. Why don't you put that degree into something worthwhile then rant and rave about a tread. Now go home and cry about it.

[08CMAX]

Originally Posted by denutto

Your right and Im so wrong. Got to get the tears out of my eyes. You caught the tater tote. Im so envious of you guys. Your a idoit did you read the post above I dont like GM. Falling off tail light they couldnt keep a tranny in it which on is worse. I was agreeing with you all, there is not one great truck and by no means would it be the TUNDRA (T100 version 2). You say Im here to cause hate and discontent. Look at 08CMAX who is a moron "Needless to say the tundra kicks that 3/4 ton's a** without blinking an eye!". Really where the test results. Ever seen a 3/4 4X4 diesel run low 12 on the 1/4 mile with the banks system and thats it, no turned up fuel pump, oversized injector or anything. Better yet match the 3/4 tons curb weight and you try it. Wait thats 7,864lbs topped of with fuel. Whats the Tundra's curb weight 5,500lbs so you couldnt even match a 3/4's curb weight. If 3/4 tons are so bad do the Toyota test and hook a bumper with it. We all know the outcome. The Tundra will follow it like a whipped dog. All im asking for is the facts. Dont get stupid about it. I have seen legitment questions asked but because you suspect the guy is a Ford, Chevy or Dodge guy you get all defenseive. Why do you need the retorques?? No body can answer it. And Mickey look at all the cotter pins on you front A arm (its under the front of your car has a spindle and some ball joints on it) last time I checked that isnt a aircraft or NASCAR. Your right I cry I cry hard from laughing every time I see anther dumbass driving a Tundra. So let me guess your all going to have your feelings hurt and BAN me. But hey what does consumer reports know and all other relibilty mags. 07 ranked much worse than others for relibility and one even said STAY AWAY FROM 07 4X4 5.7. So produce some facts... Can you???

Not causing hate and discontent?? Calling me a "moron" because a make a direct comparison of 2 trucks I have owned, towed with, driven long distance, raced, and hauled my family in? I didnt even mention diesel...in fact my GMC had the 8.1L 486ci V8 gas guzzler. Yes it was a heavier truck (da its 3/4 ton) and as I recall weighed a little more than you stated. So what? It had 2.4L more displacement and put out.... on paper 41 less HP but I suspect much less. This tundra rips my boat out of the water or up hills much MUCH better than that 3/4. So yeah I'll take it personally when you verbally attack me in front of my Tundra Bros. Oh and by the way where is the test results? Its called experience and real world use. And hook the Tundra to a 3/4 ton for bumper pull? Which one? If it was my last one the Tundra will win. But hey what does Motor Trend know. Maybe you should call them and straighten them out too.

[Deznutjob]

Originally Posted by 08CMAX

Not causing hate and discontent?? Calling me a "moron" because a make a direct comparison of 2 trucks I have owned, towed with, driven long distance, raced, and hauled my family in? I didnt even mention diesel...in fact my GMC had the 8.1L 486ci V8 gas guzzler. Yes it was a heavier truck (da its 3/4 ton) and as I recall weighed a little more than you stated. So what? It had 2.4L more displacement and put out.... on paper 41 less HP but I suspect much less. This tundra rips my boat out of the water or up hills much MUCH better than that 3/4. So yeah I'll take it personally when you verbally attack me in front of my Tundra Bros. Oh and by the way where is the test results? Its called experience and real world use. And hook the Tundra to a 3/4 ton for bumper pull? Which one? If it was my last one the Tundra will win. But hey what does Motor Trend know. Maybe you should call them and straighten them out too.

Yah denutto! Yah! Take that!

[Mickey]

Originally Posted by 08CMAX

Not causing hate and discontent?? Calling me a "moron" because a make a direct comparison of 2 trucks I have owned, towed with, driven long distance, raced, and hauled my family in? I didnt even mention diesel...in fact my GMC had the 8.1L 486ci V8 gas guzzler. Yes it was a heavier truck (da its 3/4 ton) and as I recall weighed a little more than you stated. So what? It had 2.4L more displacement and put out.... on paper 41 less HP but I suspect much less. This tundra rips my boat out of the water or up hills much MUCH better than that 3/4. So yeah I'll take it personally when you verbally attack me in front of my Tundra Bros. Oh and by the way where is the test results? Its called experience and real world use. And hook the Tundra to a 3/4 ton for bumper pull? Which one? If it was my last one the Tundra will win. But hey what does Motor Trend know. Maybe you should call them and straighten them out too.

08CMAX He just proved where the facts are. He doesn't like them or dare's to go to them. He knows who has the safest truck. He knows Motor Trend and the farmers picked the Tundra. He knows these things because he is the intelligent one. He has a degree. He doesn't consider good treads on this forum about the Tundra facts only the ones who have issues. The name streets after him (ONE WAY). He proved who rants with every name he can find in websters for me. What really gets me he has the gumption to tell me he is a marine. Which goes back to "GET REAL" who was one and was banned. He stated he was earl1 which the name was banned also. Now for a person as intelligent as he with that "Aeronautical Science" degree why come on the site to get banned so much and not even own a Tundra. My only guess is that degree must have come out of a Craker Jacks box. He is entertaining as Dez states.

[denutto]

So let me get this straight 08CMAX you want to be all huffy because I called you a MORON when Mickey said the same thing before you even made your post. Mickey I understand your fustrated but calling me kid isnt proving anything. You bought a Ford and GM and had problems with both of them. Then went back and bought another. How smart is that. Wanna buy a ATV?? Dont go away with your feelings hurt, I appolgize I didnt know you where that ignorant. So you rip a boat out of the water what does that prove. A Ridgeline, Dakota or even a Wrangler can do that. WOW im impressed! How about you put a 39ft toyhauler behind it. Thats only 14356lbs without 3 quads. Theres only alittle above 2500lbs on the hitch. Then I will be impressed. Thats what a 3/4 and 1 ton are for. If you where looking for a somthing fast theres was the SRT10, Lightning/Harley and Deneli. They will still tow your boat. 08MAXC hows the sky look when you put a good amount of weight in your bed?? Good thing you have the front sensors. My wife likes that feature. So about Consumer Reports I didnt write it consumers did. What full size trucks received the "RECOMMEND" status. Heres a clue, it was not the Tundra. So why hasnt J.D. Power even rated it yet?? Man you guys need to do your research before you just put it out there, the Tundra is NOT the safest. Nice try, look it up. So if the Tundra is so much better than a 3/4 why did they only put LIGHT TRUCK tires on it?? If Toyota made more than 174,000 trucks they probably would have alot more recalls. Thats only about 1/4 of what one domestic makes. But hey my drive shaft is not falling out. How's all those issue's everyone is having, I feel for you? You all can continue to whine and make whitty comebacks but wheres the FACTS???

[Hawaii 5.7]

Good God! Give it a rest already.

[Mickey]

Originally Posted by denutto

So let me get this straight 08CMAX you want to be all huffy because I called you a MORON when Mickey said the same thing before you even made your post. Mickey I understand your fustrated but calling me kid isnt proving anything. You bought a Ford and GM and had problems with both of them. Then went back and bought another. How smart is that. Wanna buy a ATV?? Dont go away with your feelings hurt, I appolgize I didnt know you where that ignorant. So you rip a boat out of the water what does that prove. A Ridgeline, Dakota or even a Wrangler can do that. WOW im impressed! How about you put a 39ft toyhauler behind it. Thats only 14356lbs without 3 quads. Theres only alittle above 2500lbs on the hitch. Then I will be impressed. Thats what a 3/4 and 1 ton are for. If you where looking for a somthing fast theres was the SRT10, Lightning/Harley and Deneli. They will still tow your boat. 08MAXC hows the sky look when you put a good amount of weight in your bed?? Good thing you have the front sensors. My wife likes that feature. So about Consumer Reports I didnt write it consumers did. What full size trucks received the "RECOMMEND" status. Heres a clue, it was not the Tundra. So why hasnt J.D. Power even rated it yet?? Man you guys need to do your research before you just put it out there, the Tundra is NOT the safest. Nice try, look it up. So if the Tundra is so much better than a 3/4 why did they only put LIGHT TRUCK tires on it?? If Toyota made more than 174,000 trucks they probably would have alot more recalls. Thats only about 1/4 of what one domestic makes. But hey my drive shaft is not falling out. How's all those issue's everyone is having, I feel for you? You all can continue to whine and make whitty comebacks but wheres the FACTS???

Okay since you want facts here they are. I didn't write them and with your intelligence maybe you can figure it out. Your are worried about the thread's name sake and want facts. Look up the originator. Sean M. Wood at Express-News Business Writer on MySA.com. That was posted 08/22/07 at 9:50 pm. CDT. The views were in Consumer Reports September 2007 edition. Dascrow copied it and posted it here on 08/25/07 at 10:00 am. That's where the thread originated. If you have any issues contact them. You have been very entertaining. Biased though but entertaining. You being a person liking the big 3 and you make fun of why I wanted to stay with them. I'm not hurt at what you say simply consider the source. You will learn it's customer service is what will keep people with a product. Yes your driveshaft may not be falling out but what's wrong with your gas tank? Recall on Ford look it up. But enough is enough and I will let you go on. Hopefully one day you will open your eyes and actually see all facts not just the ones that please you. I'm sorry you're so miserable that the fact is Toyota rose to number one and your maker can't get out of the whole they are in. Like you said consumers did that. Now that we both had fun ranting and raving even though you won'r admit it I will leave you with this thought. "Who is the fool, the one who leads, or the one who follows?"