True, but again people will buy em if it is competitive, hopefully undercuts the price of the Big 3 which all diesels are fantastic powertrains currently! Ford 6.7l, Duramax 6.6, and the Cummins... can never go wrong with any of them.
If the 5.7L V8 can pull the space shuttle, I wonder what marketing campaign they would have for a diesel-dually. Maybe pull Sally Struthers on a sled!
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He's saying they would need a radical new design. I honestly don't see why the trucks look like a beat and are the best looking trucks out there. Along with the beast look they have the power to back it up.
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Drivetrain carryover for one year with one exception maybe that diesel. New body and frame. New Interior. 2015 we will see direct injection, hybrid technology, and tranny with 8+ gears...
Of course, I'd like to see them come out with a truck that reinvents the entire truck market. If there ever has been a car company that has thoroughly embarrassed american companies, it's Toyota. (Honda too) How many years have they been trying to catch up? There is a reason EVERY commercial compares their shit to benchmark companies like Toyota and Honda. They did it with passenger cars, they know they can do it with full size trucks. They sure as hell did it with mini trucks. Tacoma is the last man standing. I say haaa-haaa to that.
Here's an interesting thought (I am not sure if this has already been raised in another thread)....
What if Toyota broke off the Tundra brand, similar to what Chrysler/Dodge did with the Ram?
If one of the factors contributing to low sales volume, compared to the domestic Big 3, is that the Tundra is a Japanese truck (even though it is built in the U.S.), then would there be any success in marketing/branding the Tundra (or whatever name they want to call it) as an American truck brand?
For example, the Ram brand is owned by Chrysler, which is technically now owned by Fiat, an Italian company. While it may be only ownership on paper (i.e. stock ownership) - I am not sure if there are actually any Italian car parts in a Ram truck - the perception may be similar to that faced by Toyota/Tundra (I am not sure how many Japanese parts are in a Tundra).
To swing this back on topic, I raise the above points to add some food-for-thought on the discussion about what a new Tundra might 'look like'. Not the physical appearance or mechanical design of the vehicle, but the branding/marketing of the model.
Anyway....
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Drivetrain carryover for one year with one exception maybe that diesel. New body and frame. New Interior. 2015 we will see direct injection, hybrid technology, and tranny with 8+ gears...
Of course, I'd like to see them come out with a truck that reinvents the entire truck market. If there ever has been a car company that has thoroughly embarrassed american companies, it's Toyota. (Honda too) How many years have they been trying to catch up? There is a reason EVERY commercial compares their shit to benchmark companies like Toyota and Honda. They did it with passenger cars, they know they can do it with full size trucks. They sure as hell did it with mini trucks. Tacoma is the last man standing. I say haaa-haaa to that.
If it is indeed a "new" truck, why wait to add the direct injection and other features? It seems to make more sense to hit the market with all the new features at once so it can make the biggest impact possible.
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2014 GM trucks were revealed today. I have to say that I really like what they have done. I cant wait to see how Toyota answers. They definitely have their work cut out for them with everything the Big 3 is doing now.
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2014 GM trucks were revealed today. I have to say that I really like what they have done. I cant wait to see how Toyota answers. They definitely have their work cut out for them with everything the Big 3 is doing now.
I was looking at that and they look like the vanilla F150's I see out now with the low narrow stance.
I would like them to go the Dodge route and go big and tall. I don't like the sports truck look.
What would really be nice is to see Toyota come out with a 3/4 ton spring pack for existing owners to have installed at the dealer with new weight stickers for the door.
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I don't see the Ford comparison myself...I dont like the look of the Ford's at all, never have. The hood on the new Sierra sits as high as the '13 HD. I think the '13 Dodge 1500 looks pretty low slung itself.
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Looking at the new GM motors (pickuptrucks.com) I notice none have what appear to be a mechanical driven cooling fan. Maybe these will all have electric fans?
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Here's an interesting thought (I am not sure if this has already been raised in another thread)....
What if Toyota broke off the Tundra brand, similar to what Chrysler/Dodge did with the Ram?
If one of the factors contributing to low sales volume, compared to the domestic Big 3, is that the Tundra is a Japanese truck (even though it is built in the U.S.), then would there be any success in marketing/branding the Tundra (or whatever name they want to call it) as an American truck brand?
For example, the Ram brand is owned by Chrysler, which is technically now owned by Fiat, an Italian company. While it may be only ownership on paper (i.e. stock ownership) - I am not sure if there are actually any Italian car parts in a Ram truck - the perception may be similar to that faced by Toyota/Tundra (I am not sure how many Japanese parts are in a Tundra).
To swing this back on topic, I raise the above points to add some food-for-thought on the discussion about what a new Tundra might 'look like'. Not the physical appearance or mechanical design of the vehicle, but the branding/marketing of the model.
Anyway....
That would be too much of a pain for Toyota, even the Scion Brand isn't that profitable now. When I was working as a salesman for Toyota, they were the cars we avoided selling just because there was no profit on those cars especially because of the purepricing which meant no discounts or markups, what you see is what you pay. Only upside was to the consumer that everyone payed the same price so they wont depreciate in value, sorry about the tangent but anyway, it'd be another extra marketing/brand/patenting premium that will be factored into the price of the new vehicle and will cost the consumer not them so I'm sure that's a no go.
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2014 GM trucks were revealed today. I have to say that I really like what they have done. I cant wait to see how Toyota answers. They definitely have their work cut out for them with everything the Big 3 is doing now.
Besides the brand, one thing I just cannot understand is the round peg into a square hole fenders??? Did the engineer NOT get the same ball and peg toy everyone else got?
By far, Chebby is my absolute least favorite truck. Also, I don't see all that much difference in the new truck??? Am I missing something??
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