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2018 F-150 Diesel, Come on Toyota.....

Not sure if this has been discussed yet, but I just heard that Ford is now going to release
a F-150 Diesel. First Ram, now Ford.

I know there has been discussion regarding Tundra Diesel coming, not coming, Gen 3 coming 2021, etc.

Don't get me wrong, I love absolutely love My 2007 Rig and have no plans to get rid of it.

Hopefully this will light some fire under Toyota MoCo, to get them rolling.

Okay, cabin fever as we got dumped on with the white stuff!





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That 2018 f 150 looks beautiful and diesel in light weight truck . Toyota better go fetch that 4.5L diesel from LC and fast.

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Toyota is being wise...and you guys do not even see it.

Look at the Nissan Titan HD 5.0L diesel. Read owners reports. Read problem reports. Read they get the same MPG as the big boy truck diesels.

Look at the Dodge Eco Diesel...it gets great MPG. And. Ummm. Oh boy. Nothing else good to report.

Both the Nissan HD diesel 5.0 and Dodge Eco Diesel are absolute DOGS doomed by an unusually high percentage of problems.



Be careful what you wish for boys. Those 1/2 ton diesels are an absolute JOKE.



I am confident there is a VERY good reason Toyota has delayed their release of the shared 5.0L diesel;

To save the Toyota brand name known for reliability!
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Before this gets into a bashing, in my drive way sits a Toyota Tundra, Toyota Tacoma, and a Lexus GX470!

The Toyota loyalty runs strong in my house hold!

I was just mearly bringing up something that I saw on the tv while being stuck in the house, having almost a foot of snow being dumped on.


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A: What is Toyota’s stance on diesel engines for the U.S. pickup truck market?

S: I can’t talk about what we’re doing in the future but, in this market, diesel is an interesting offering. Of course, with a diesel engine fuel economy is 30 percent better right out of the box. The difficulty with the diesel is LEV III [emissions standards]. The difficulty is the cost-to-benefit relationship. Everybody loves diesel in trucks. The downside is the after-treatment systems can add $3,000 or more. It starts becoming cost prohibitive, especially in this segment, to pay a premium for both the engine and after-treatment system. That’s the struggle we have. We build a lot of diesel trucks, just not in this country. If I develop a diesel system for our country and I spend a huge amount of money to do that, I won’t see a return on the investment. That’s what we’ve struggled with.

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I'd be more interested if they put an ecoboost type system on the 5.7.
There are too few that get a hard on for a diesel to make it worthwhile
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diesel... NO

ecobust BS... NO

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The emissions systems on these new diesels are trash! I had a loaded 16 lariat f250 and got rid of it within 6 months...got a 17 1794 edition. That should speak for itself.
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During my recent research and shopping for a replacement for the VMax. I shopped and test drove the Diesel offerings from the big 3, and the new Nissan. You cannot deny the torque of the big diesels, but that comes at a premium cost. The Nissan just left me going, Meh? I decided on the Tundra because to me it is a 3/4T in a 1/2T package. I do not tow a lot, and am willing to pay a little extra in fuel cost when I do, to have a stone reliable daily driver. It would be nice to have the small diesel MPG, but not at a $10K premium over what is an already excellent truck.
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diesel... NO

ecobust BS... NO

6.2 I Force

425HP, 475lbs, 15 city 17 mixed, 19 highway

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I bet they can get close to those numbers out of the 5.7.

I'm think 6.2 at

475 HP, 525lbs and 14 15 and 16....

BAM!!!!

I just hope Toyota doesn't get in trouble going to direct injection....
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3.0 Powerjoke. No thanks.
New diesels are not what they used to be.

My 6.7 Cummins was a joke until I deleted everything. Then the rest of the truck couldn't keep up. Traded in on my '15 Tundra and couldn't be happier.

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Long-Awaited 2018 Lexus LS Sedan Debuts in Detroit » AutoGuide.com News

I believe this will be the Tundra's next power plant but with a hybrid option.
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I believe this will be the Tundra's next power plant but with a hybrid option.


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I believe this will be the Tundra's next power plant but with a hybrid option.
That's the way I see Toyota going in the future. My wife bought a Lexus NX last spring and the salesman said that they were big on the motor which is a 2.0 Turbo and they they were going to be making new versions of it. I assume Toyota would follow in Lexus's footprints.
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