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DHS Releasing Illegal Immigrants Before Sequester

Unbelievable actions by the Department of Homeland Security

DHS releasing illegal immigrants before sequester - WTOP.com

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A week before mandatory budget cuts go into effect across the government, the Department of Homeland Security has started releasing illegal immigrants being held in immigration jails across the country, Immigration and Customs Enforcement said Tuesday.

Gillian Christensen, an ICE spokeswoman, said ICE has reviewed "several hundred cases" of immigrants being held in jails around the country and released them in the last week. They have been "placed on an appropriate, more cost-effective form of supervised release," she said.

Christensen said the agency's "priority for detention remains on serious criminal offenders and other individuals who pose a significant threat to public safety." She did not say how released immigrants were selected or what jails they were released from.

Tuesday's announcement of jail releases is the first tangible impact of the looming budget cuts for DHS.

The Obama administration has been issuing dire warnings about the impact of the sequestration and DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano told reporters at the White House Monday that across-the-board cuts would impact the department's core operations, including border security and airport screening operations.

She also warned that DHS might not be able to afford to keep the 34,000 immigration jail beds mandated by Congress. On average last week, there were 30,773 people being held in ICE jails.

"I don't think we can maintain the same level of security at all places around the country with sequester as without sequester," said Napolitano, adding that the impact would be "'like a rolling ball. It will keep growing."

According to the National Immigration Forum, it costs the government about $164 a day to keep an illegal immigrant facing deportation jailed. In a report on immigration detention costs last year the advocacy group said costs for supervised release can range from about 30 cents to $14 a day.

Republicans lawmakers decried the releases Tuesday.

"It's abhorrent that President (Barack) Obama is releasing criminals into our communities to promote his political agenda on sequestration," House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte. "By releasing criminal immigrants onto the streets, the Administration is needlessly endangering American lives. It also undermines our efforts to come together with the Administration and reform our nation's immigration laws."

The administration asked for about $1.96 billion for immigration jail operations in the last budget. It amounts to about $5.4 million a day, according to the National Immigration Forum's report.

Christensen said Tuesday that released immigrants will still face deportation proceedings.


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The sequestration Bill was signed into law by the President.

Doesn't a signature constitute an agreement?

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Obummer is just expediting their path to citizenship and shoring up votes, he knows what is best for you all so just run with it dammit.
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I'm not sure how I feel about this. I guess I would be glad if I knew someone? I'm sure the released aren't high level security risk, just people trying to make a better life for their families.

However from this article, it sounds irresponsible.
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Why are they releasing illegals that cost $164 p/day?
Why wouldn't they make cuts to bigger things that actually cost us money and have no use,.....like, DHS and TSA as a whole?
It's all a bunch of horseshit.
We tell them they have to make budget cuts and they immediately come out with having to release all the criminals and fire all the doctors and nurses and school teachers and cops.
See what you did? Now all the kids will be sick, homes will burn down, criminals will run rampant in the street,......
I hope you're all happy. Shoulda just let them keep spending

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Re: DHS Releasing Illegal Immigrants Before Sequester

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Why are they releasing illegals that cost $164 p/day?
Why wouldn't they make cuts to bigger things that actually cost us money and have no use,.....like, DHS and TSA as a whole?
It's all a bunch of horseshit.
We tell them they have to make budget cuts and they immediately come out with having to release all the criminals and fire all the doctors and nurses and school teachers and cops.
See what you did? Now all the kids will be sick, homes will burn down, criminals will run rampant in the street,......
I hope you're all happy. Shoulda just let them keep spending
And these morons will be running our health care too... way to go liberals.

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Re: DHS Releasing Illegal Immigrants Before Sequester

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Fixed it for you.

Actually, maybe they got this one right. How much per day are we paying for welfare recipients? Less than $164/day? Oh wait...I get it. Its tricky math. Instead of paying $164/day to incarcerate illegals, we let them out, give them $164/day in free money, and at the same time building the democratic voter base stronger than ever

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Check out how much Medicare cost, welfare is chump change compared to that. Your also trying to categorize people.

The next democrat isn't gaining any support from this, as long as republicans keep making laws like sb1070, their gonna be on the sidelines.
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Check out how much Medicare cost, welfare is chump change compared to that. Your also trying to categorize people.

The next democrat isn't gaining any support from this, as long as republicans keep making laws like sb1070, their gonna be on the sidelines.
Not gaining support? You think all the illegals who are given citizenship are going to voir Republican? Common. It's funny that people bag on sb1070 when all it does is enforce the laws that the feeds refuse too... it was also supported by more than 6 of ten voters.

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Re: DHS Releasing Illegal Immigrants Before Sequester

In my opinion they are all criminals ie criminals are those who break laws.... therefore every illegal immigrant is a criminal. I know it seems hard to comprehend but breaking a law means you are a criminal... im sure there are other ways to simplify this "tricky" equation, but in the end we will land at the same answer each and every time!

Theres 2 simple ways to become a us citizen (if not already) legally- going through due process and becoming a LEGAL citizen, contributing to taxes paying into wellfare, medicare and all of the likes..
OR illegally - you know the criminal way, hence the term illegally. Taking all the benefits without contributing.

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When I heard this I think I saw it for what it is. Obama and Nappy got a chance to suck up to a certain segment of the population and also try to scare others into quickly dealing with the coming crisis.

I'm quite disappointed in the administration's actions on this.

My son worked on a plumbing project in a DHS holding facility in Florence awhile back. He said the "inmates? had it a lot better than he did as a worker (it was in summer). It was quite an eye opener for him. They even had a covered area for them to play soccer. I'm sure it wasn't a full field though. Let's hope one of the released commits a serious crime to shed some light on this. What ever happened to the gun running investigation?

Yeah, yeah, I know I voted for him, but that does give me pause.
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Check out how much Medicare cost, welfare is chump change compared to that. Your also trying to categorize people.

The next democrat isn't gaining any support from this, as long as republicans keep making laws like sb1070, their gonna be on the sidelines.
Not to steer the post from topic, but I'm reading a chilling article in Time magazine about health costs and care in this country. In it, it shows that Medicare is actually the most cost effective route to get medical care. So far, the most outlandish practices are in Conn. One of the reasons for this is the goddam lobbying to the pay for hire assholes in congress. It makes me sick. They are beholding to the health care organizations and drug companies much more than the defense industry.

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the defense industry.....
Speaking of which.....
the defense dept loses trillions (with a "T") every year, that can't be accounted for. But we need to free prisoners to save from spending too much.
Obama actually said, "do we take from the poor kids, or the disabled kids?"
Right. In order to stop over-spending, we need to cut programs for disabled kids.
Probably wouldn't do any good if we stopped starting wars so Haliburton could lease SUVs for $7000 p/mo, charging $45 for a 6 pk of coke, $100 p/bag to wash soldiers' laundry (the list goes on forever) and it all gets billed to the federal gov.
No, we gotta cut back on funding for wheelchairs and daycare for disabled kids.
If anyone actually buys any of the garbage coming out of Obama's mouth, or just about any politician right now,......you need to go drown yourself.
Actually, it's raining here right now. Shouldn't be too hard. Just go outside and look up for a few minutes.

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Speaking of which.....
the defense dept loses trillions (with a "T") every year, that can't be accounted for. But we need to free prisoners to save from spending too much.
Obama actually said, "do we take from the poor kids, or the disabled kids?"
Right. In order to stop over-spending, we need to cut programs for disabled kids.
Probably wouldn't do any good if we stopped starting wars so Haliburton could lease SUVs for $7000 p/mo, charging $45 for a 6 pk of coke, $100 p/bag to wash soldiers' laundry (the list goes on forever) and it all gets billed to the federal gov.
No, we gotta cut back on funding for wheelchairs and daycare for disabled kids.
If anyone actually buys any of the garbage coming out of Obama's mouth, or just about any politician right now,......you need to go drown yourself.
Actually, it's raining here right now. Shouldn't be too hard. Just go outside and look up for a few minutes.
If the trillions with a T can't be accounted for, how do you know it's lost? People always seem to forget that social programs are a far greater part of the federal budget than defense.

If you want to take your grief out on someone take it out on federal contractors, not civil servants. They rape the country in the name of the country but really their number one motivation is their shareholders.

Maybe I'm biased because I work for DoD and am potentially subject to furlough starting in April but dammit I do my job, why can't Congress do theirs?


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