Originally Posted by RRzxter
Never once, have gun laws prevented or even dampened crime, violent or otherwise. In fact, history has proven just the opposite. Areas, cities, states, countries with the strictest gun laws/regulations, consistanly have higher crime rates.
If that's what you are getting at, I just wanted to make that clear.
History has not proven anything. What happened somewhere else at a different time means little.
Having stricter gun laws means that is one more thing to increase the crime rate. You have an illegal gun, you have committed a crime. And when this law goes into effect, our crime rate will soar. Because all those average joes will now be criminals.
When you start throwing useless statistics at an issue, it just means you have a weak argument.
I said long ago in this thread I am against this illegal law, and confused by the blowback.
Guns don't kill people, it is the people behind those guns. Laws are not going to stop 1 massacre.
If you call NY liberal because we feed our poor and end up getting immigrants from states that would rather shoot you than feed you, I guess that is just the world I live in. I am in favor of not giving welfare to anyone who hasn't lived here for 5 years, yes, but until I can change the regulations, I live with it as the alternative of living in another state is not worth it.