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So what about the Communist/Hitler references you made and did you really just try to use the middle name argument? Don't forget that he is not a citizen of this country. (LOL, I see now in your other post you didn't miss that statement) What is this, the 3rd grade? You know what, never mind, you shouldn't explain yourself as it just proves my point even further.
Proves what point? Do you think you are smarter than every body else? You come on this thread and try to shove your political views down every ones throat. You try to preach to us on how great you think obama is. Yes we are stuck with him for four more years, that does not mean we have to like it. He over steps his authority and does not care that he violates peoples rights.
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So for every true document, somebody could pay off somebody to create a false one. It rendered your argument moot. The question to ask is who would go to these lengths? I'm sure if it could be proven it would have been proven by the people who had the most to gain, the republican party, they have the financial resources and the people necessary, yet they were unsuccessful, that should tell you that he's American because they checked.
Yes they could pay off somebody to create a false one. Some forged documents can be created so well and passed of as real that they can fool pretty much any one. With that being said I may have went a little far on the statment I made about obummers birth certificate.
Even then their are still a lot of people in both parties and around the U.S. that still do not believe was really born in the U.S.
I am not sure where he was really born, I mostly said it to get a rouse out of Euphoric. I should have stayed away from the statement about whether or not obummer was born in the U.S.

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You really believe that?
Well we are stuck with him for now. You are right in bringing that up, things could happen to where he is no longer president.

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Exactly. He is waking the crazies up. Everyone in the world hates us. He can possibly impeach himself or worse.
That is true.

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I firmly believe it is impossible to get him impeached. I think he could get away with nearly anything and stay in office.

Heck, we couldn't get a guy out who lied under oath and in front of 300+ million people.

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I'm not so sure he will be removed for something as small as murdering U.S. citizens for not complying to being disarmed.
3 structurally impact-proof buildings were deliberately demolished with nano thermite (after having airliners flown into 2 of them, the 3rd was never touched by a plane), killing 3000 U.S. citizens and nothing came of it. Well, other than the belief that it was a terrorist attack and full approval by most of the public to go start a war in Iraq.
Shit, we don't even talk about it anymore. The evidence was overwhelming that our own gov, murdered 3000 Americans and you think Obama will get impeached for having "homeland security" gun down a few rednecks?
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^^^Not every gun owner is a redneck.

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Proves what point? Do you think you are smarter than every body else? You come on this thread and try to shove your political views down every ones throat. You try to preach to us on how great you think obama is. Yes we are stuck with him for four more years, that does not mean we have to like it. He over steps his authority and does not care that he violates peoples rights.
Do not insult me or my intelligence, or any one elses for that matter.
Which president was in power when Homeland Security created? I believe it was GWB. I'm pretty sure some people's rights were violated when GW was at the helm. Things like monitoring calls into and out of the U.S. without the requirement of warrant.

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Exactly. He is waking the crazies up. Everyone in the world hates us. He can possibly impeach himself or worse.
Don't sell yourself short, people around the world hated Americans long before Obama came to power. If anything, I would say the world hates Americans less now that Obama is in power because he's less likely to invade countries than Bush, Bush Sr or Reagan.

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^^^Not every gun owner is a redneck.
Um, yes they are. Don't you watch the news? Duh.

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I would never condone such an act
Niether would I, of course
But in all seriousness, that's not the problem and they would simply stick another bobble head in his place.

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Which president was in power when Homeland Security created? I believe it was GWB. I'm pretty sure some people's rights were violated when GW was at the helm. Things like monitoring calls into and out of the U.S. without the requirement of warrant.
Right. Some of the most heinous acts against other countries AND U.S. citizens were committed under his watch. The policies haven't changed, just the guy they hired to tell us they did.
I'm starting to think that people truly believe that it really matters who our president is and what color tie he wears.

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I hope to never witness any POTUS be taken out. I would never hope for that.
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It would seem we have gone "High and Right" with this discussion. As a gun owner and someone who swore an oath to the constitution I would like to bring the focus back to the immediate fight of preserving the right to possess and use firearms regardless of how many rounds the magazine holds. As a side note I keep seeing everywhere about High capacity magazines referring to the typical 30 round AR mag. For the record these are "standard" capacity. Dont allow the simple twisting of words and facts be what villainizes you and your rights.

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I think the conversation is still spot on.
They still want to ban anything that will give a shooter a tactical advantage.
That is the reason for nothing over 10 rounds and any, one feature that would deem something an "assault weapon". Like a pistol grip, etc.
the topic is still about them disarming us. It just moved to more of why they want to. It sure as hell doesn't have anything to do with someone shooting up a school.

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