Originally Posted by EUPHOR1C
Out of all of what I said all you have to argue is me using the word "clip." I may as well be arguing with my teenage daughter. The term "drop the clip" is just slang and had I of known I would of gotten into a semantics argument I would not have used it. Some of you are the type of people that only look for what you don't agree with in a statement and block everything else out.
To Dim sum, I agree with you 100%. A formal education doesn't necessarily mean anything. Nothing can educate a human being more than real life experiences and OTJ training. I consider myself educated, but I don't hold a formal degree. I'm 30 credits away from a bachelors, but that will just be more of resume filler and more importantly I will be $80,000 in debt when all is said and done.
To BigRed, thank you for the explanation. I think we all agree on a lot more things then we think we do. We just, for whatever reason, label each other as liberals, republicans, socialist, etc. , but if you think about it, America is all of those things and always has been. Not every "liberal" is the same just like not every "tea party" member is.
In all honesty, I didn't think bad of you because of your opinion but after all the discussion , you brought up the fact that educated people like yourself voted Obama. I don't want to get into that.
It boils down to the left claiming to be the educated, enlightened ones and if you look at the advisors and cabinet of obama, they are about 90 percent from academia. They have no real world experience. They think an education means they know more than an uneducated person. Therefore they know best.
Banning guns or limiting magazine capacities is not the answer to this. The left flipped the **** out when the head of the NRA said armed guards in schools or armed teachers was a good start. They refuse to face facts.
Of course all of these elite liberals from hollywood and all of these talking heads on the networks and politicians have armed guards protecting them and their children. Several politicians have concealed carry permits but they are against them for the average citizen.
Gun violence is bad but people have been killing people with whatever was available since the beginning of time. The 2nd amendment was written as a protection for the citizens to prevent tyranny from the government.
There isn't really anything to discuss. The left says to Ban guns. They believe that is the only answer. How do you have a discussion when that is the solution they feel there is?
Read the article I posted a earlier. Gun free zones are the first place people bent on murder/suicide go. They never go to a National Guard Armory or a Police Headquarters or a shooting range to do these terrible things. You can't fix crazy.
My dad quit HS in the 10th grade to go fight the japanese. He left rural Oklahoma whtere they were still plowing with horses and went to the pacific and saw and did horrible things as a 17 year old that you will never understand. He was uneducated. I thought he was stupid until I was grown and realized he was a very smart man. He saw how government did when they got more and more power.
A gun never jumped up off a table, loaded itself and went down to the corner and started shooting people. A human did it. Timothy McVay did it with a uhaul truck,fertilizer and diesel. The 9/11 terrorist did it with airplanes.
Why don't we limit air travel to Cessna turbo props? They can't damage a building the way a 747 can. Let's limit Uhauls to 8 foot trailers. You can't build as big a bomb as the one that was detonated in OKC.
The left wants all guns taken away period. They claim it will fix all the problems. It will only make criminals out of law abiding citizens.