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post #1666 of 2099 (permalink) Old 02-12-2013, 06:25 AM
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Wow, how awesome is that?!?!
The president starts his state of the union address, just as a crazed gunman/cop killer has been man-hunted to a secluded cabin, had a shoot-out and the cabin is burned to the ground and the whole thing came to a close.

Man, you couldn't have timed that any better, even if you planned it.

BTW, here's what was officially reported by a sheriff's dept. spokesperson:
He stole a vehicle at gunpoint.
Fish & game officers spotted him, set up a roadblock, he crashed the truck, they chased him, exchanged fire.
He fled to a cabin in the woods.
Sheriff's dept. showed up, exchanged fire with someone in the cabin.
The cabin caught fire and burned down.
That's it.

Crazy shit I've heard said, speculated and put up on the screen of CNN's broadcast?:
They didn't call in the FD because a 50 cal rifle could penetrate a fire truck.
The cabin "exploded".
He had hostages tied up in the cabin.
He held hostage, the owners of the vehicle he stole, for 3 days and had them tied up also.
Ammunition was heard "exploding" in the cabin.
He tried using a smoke grenade to cover his attempted escape from the rear of the cabin.
I can just imagine the gossip and stories that are already circulating.
Things I find odd about the situation:
We don't truly know the circumstances of the alleged murders that he's allegedly guilty of.
I find it odd that LAPD wanted him found and dead at all costs, even if that meant opening fire on random citizens/vehicles, with no regard for identifying who they might be firing on.
I find it odd that he was chased down to some cabin in a remote area and it was burned to the ground. A cabin that was already searched by LE agencies, 2 days prior and determined to not be occupied or have any evidence of being used to store provisions or weapons. The place didn't even have electricity, cable, internet, utilities, etc.


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And of course, he's dead.
Was there ever any question of how this would end?
Did anyone ever think for one second, that he would be captured alive and brought before a court of law?

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oops, more misinformation by our wonderful media.
They haven't even searched the burned remains of the cabin. It's still too hot.
No body has been looked for yet, let alone found.

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Wow, how awesome is that?!?!
The president starts his state of the union address, just as a crazed gunman/cop killer has been man-hunted to a secluded cabin, had a shoot-out and the cabin is burned to the ground and the whole thing came to a close.

Man, you couldn't have timed that any better, even if you planned it.

BTW, here's what was officially reported by a sheriff's dept. spokesperson:
He stole a vehicle at gunpoint.
Fish & game officers spotted him, set up a roadblock, he crashed the truck, they chased him, exchanged fire.
He fled to a cabin in the woods.
Sheriff's dept. showed up, exchanged fire with someone in the cabin.
The cabin caught fire and burned down.
That's it.

Crazy shit I've heard said, speculated and put up on the screen of CNN's broadcast?:
They didn't call in the FD because a 50 cal rifle could penetrate a fire truck.
The cabin "exploded".
He had hostages tied up in the cabin.
He held hostage, the owners of the vehicle he stole, for 3 days and had them tied up also.
Ammunition was heard "exploding" in the cabin.
He tried using a smoke grenade to cover his attempted escape from the rear of the cabin.
I can just imagine the gossip and stories that are already circulating.
Things I find odd about the situation:
We don't truly know the circumstances of the alleged murders that he's allegedly guilty of.
I find it odd that LAPD wanted him found and dead at all costs, even if that meant opening fire on random citizens/vehicles, with no regard for identifying who they might be firing on.
I find it odd that he was chased down to some cabin in a remote area and it was burned to the ground. A cabin that was already searched by LE agencies, 2 days prior and determined to not be occupied or have any evidence of being used to store provisions or weapons. The place didn't even have electricity, cable, internet, utilities, etc.
I think an hour after an event occurs is a bit premature for conspiracy theories.


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I think an hour after an event occurs is a bit premature for conspiracy theories.


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Seriously?
How do you get "conspiracy" out of any of that?
I posted what was officially reported as known facts, which was fairly vague, compared to the absurd crap that the media was speculating and outright making up, as the story was unfolding. As to point out how ridiculous media coverage is. And I also pointed out a few things that I found odd and even humorous about the whole thing. At no point did I jump to any conclusions about a "conspiracy".
For all the media coverage of things like this and Sandy Hook are worth, you might as well just give the cameras and mic to a group of old ladies. That's what it reminds me of: a fire truck stops at the Smith house and all the old ladies are in a group, on Edna's lawn, gossiping about what's going on. I heard John has been having heart trouble. I heard he's having an affair. I'll bet his grandson was playing with matches again. I'll bet that damn dog of his, bit someone. I heard his daughter is on drugs, probably an overdose. I'll bet his stove was leaking.
That's what the news is to me. Last night was a perfect example.
BTW, I purposely watched hours of CNN's live coverage last night. At one point, the son of the woman who owns the property was on the air, live. He said it was a rental property and it was vacant. He also said that law enforcement had just been to the property, 2 days prior. When you consider the fact that Dorner stole a vehicle, was spotted by a fish and game officer, reported, stopped by a roadblock, abandoned the vehicle and fled into the woods, it just seemed odd that he found his way to an abandoned cabin that had just been searched 2 days prior, in a totally random scenario. Maybe there's a perfectly good explanation. Maybe it was a total coincidence. I just said it was odd. Then again, I notice little oddities like that, because I don't get caught up in the drama and gossip. Did you watch hours of the live coverage and make any of the same observations? Or, did you watch 2 min of it on your local news station and call me a "conspiracy theorist"?

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Things I find odd about the situation:
We don't truly know the circumstances of the alleged murders that he's allegedly guilty of.
I find it odd that LAPD wanted him found and dead at all costs, even if that meant opening fire on random citizens/vehicles, with no regard for identifying who they might be firing on.
I find it odd that he was chased down to some cabin in a remote area and it was burned to the ground. A cabin that was already searched by LE agencies, 2 days prior and determined to not be occupied or have any evidence of being used to store provisions or weapons. The place didn't even have electricity, cable, internet, utilities, etc.
I think this is the part that brings about assumptions of a conspiracy theory. "Alleged" murders that he's "allegedly" guilty of? Those folks weren't allegedly murdered. They have indeed been murdered. He was seen committing one of these acts by one of the people he shot. Maybe I'm missing the context, but to say it's odd that the LAPD wants him dead at all costs to the point that they will shoot random citizens implies that there is some reason (other than the obvious) that they need him out of the picture. Those idiots were blasting away at innocent folks, but it's a stretch to say that was the plan or it's some department policy to rub this guy out. The remainder of your post seems to imply that the cabin thing isn't adding up for you.



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Yeah, I did add a few off beat comments.
I really did just mean to make a mockery of the media coverage though.
Honestly.

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And?

HLS needs all that because of 9/11 and the underwear bomber. Duh.

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HLS needs all that because of 9/11 and the underwear bomber. Duh.
Did you read the article? They need it because of you


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Are you sure he's dead? The cabin caught on fire and they found a body inside. He was seen on camera refilling scuba tanks a week before the incident. Scuba gear can easily be used to breath in a smoke filled cabin and aide in escape. I'm not saying he escaped and is alive. I'm just saying that setting the cabin on fire and leaving a body inside would sure make it easy to escape from the area since they have stopped looking for him until an autopsy is done.


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