Gun Violence and Gun Control Fervor

[EUPHOR1C]

Originally Posted by BigRed2007

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It is its natural manure."

Thomas Jefferson in the letter to William S. Smith November 13, 1787


I believe there are things in this world bigger than me. I already did my stint in the military. This is more important and about more than just gun confiscation. If it gets to this point the Republic is in deep, deep doo-doo. I had someone beating on my door at 01:00 on Christmas morning, and met that potential threat with my Glock. He went away when he saw it.

If they pass and start any bad shit, there will be something more powerful in my hand when the door bursts open in the middle of the night. Any efforts to confiscate will be ultimately successful by the survivors, but they will have received all my ammo first. This is certainly not something I desire, but it will play out if necessary. I enter burning buildings on purpose, not filled with fear, but with knowledge and determination. This would be no different.

Anyone that thinks of this scenario as the ultimate climax to some warped fantasy, are mentally ill and probably shouldn't have any firearms.

BTW....substitute firearms with whatever you may have of value, whether monetary or not; your 401K (talk of government takeover), precious metals, your SUV or full sized truck, type of dog you have, etc.

I understand what your saying and think every American should have the right to own a firearm(s). Some of this pseudo propaganda talk about having stand offs against our own government IF they were to "try" to confiscate all our guns is foolish and destructive to our society.

[EUPHOR1C]

Originally Posted by Johnny 5

They won't cut entitlements, so what is left to take from them but OBAMA PHONES and hope bumper stickers?

This is exactly what I'm talking about...........That was debunked a long time ago dude. I know you would like to believe that every person that voted for Obama are living in the ghetto getting high off food stamps, but it just isn't true.

PolitiFact | Adam Putnam: Obama campaign gives free cell phones to supporters

[fearturtle03]

Originally Posted by EUPHOR1C

This is exactly what I'm talking about...........That was debunked a long time ago dude. I know you would like to believe that every person that voted for Obama are living in the ghetto getting high off food stamps, but it just isn't true.

What is a more accurate statement is: Almost every person in the ghetto getting high off food stamps voted for Obama. But lets not get off topic and back to discussing how placing a ban on firearms prevents 0 crime reduction.

Please see case study of Chicago for that.

[fearturtle03]

Great blog post about the worthlessness or gun bans and why arming teachers just makes sense.

An opinion on gun control Monster Hunter Nation

How do people not understand this logic?

[Bad Dad's Tundra]

Liberals don't understand logic. Logic does not come naturally. You either know it, you learn it, or you are incapable of doing so. Period. I know, a hard fact to swallow.

[Dim Sum]

Originally Posted by EUPHOR1C

I understand what your saying and think every American should have the right to own a firearm(s). Some of this pseudo propaganda talk about having stand offs against our own government IF they were to "try" to confiscate all our guns is foolish and destructive to our society.

Some would believe the 2nd Amendment was put in place so the people could stand up to a tyrannical government if ever needed . . .

[Toxarch]

Originally Posted by EUPHOR1C

I understand what your saying and think every American should have the right to own a firearm(s). Some of this pseudo propaganda talk about having stand offs against our own government IF they were to "try" to confiscate all our guns is foolish and destructive to our society.

Gee, that would never happen on this continent, right? No one would try to take away American guns. Oh wait... there was that time right before the American Revolution happened.

[Wrider]

Originally Posted by EUPHOR1C

This is exactly what I'm talking about...........That was debunked a long time ago dude. I know you would like to believe that every person that voted for Obama are living in the ghetto getting high off food stamps, but it just isn't true.

PolitiFact | Adam Putnam: Obama campaign gives free cell phones to supporters

The fact that you believe politifact is a bit scary...

Their "lie of the year" from Romney, stating that Jeep is going to start building Jeeps in China after being sold to Fiat, is actually true. They simply said "we don't believe they should" and called his factual statement a lie.
FWIW Jeep is building a factory in China, opening in 2014, building about 100K Jeeps a year, with the capability of 200,000.

[Big Shasta]

Originally Posted by Dim Sum

I did not know that.

Were they National Guard / Coast Guard / or actual regular military?

The law allows for the Guard and Coast Guard to do so....

National Guard.

[BigRed2007]

Originally Posted by John Galt

Or, they could make it illegal for anyone to have a firearm. All those people who keep them are all of the sudden "non law abiding".... Now what?

The old saying was "When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns."

The 2013 version is: "When guns are outlawed, I will be an outlaw."

[BigRed2007]

Originally Posted by EUPHOR1C

I understand what your saying and think every American should have the right to own a firearm(s). Some of this pseudo propaganda talk about having stand offs against our own government IF they were to "try" to confiscate all our guns is foolish and destructive to our society.

So then, you think we should all "just comply" and march down to our local law enforcement office and turn them all in? Turn in property that was purchased legally, paid sales tax on, and can be worth many thousands of dollars in some cases? What happened in Gonzales Texas in early October 1835? I'll tell you what, a gun confiscation scheme (in this particluar case, a loaned cannon from Mexico that they demanded back). They were told "NO!" and the cannon was buried in a secure location. The mexican army came to try and take it away, and were turned away by an initial 18 men that grew into a force of 150 with the now available and ready cannon. They fired the cannon once at the mexican army, who then retreated. This is where the flag "Come and Take It!" was flown. It is now our battle cry.
My point is if we stick together and simply do not comply, they will be overwhelmed with trying to enforce the unenforceable and the unconstitutional.

[StevenD]

Creo...Looks like you cant even have a Nerf gun up there!

Justin Bieber -- Investigated for Assault ... With a Nerf Gun | TMZ.com

[30PlusRetlaw]

Originally Posted by Dim Sum

I did not know that.

Were they National Guard / Coast Guard / or actual regular military?

The law allows for the Guard and Coast Guard to do so....

Nional Guard and Police went house to house, even in places where the water didn't do any damage disarming home owners. I posted a video in this thread were you can see the people in handcuffs and a 83 y/o lady trown to the ground by Police for having an UNLOADED gun.

[lkn4trouble]

Originally Posted by EUPHOR1C

Come on, really? Even if "they" were to really come take your guns are you really thinking in your head your going down shooting. I know many of you feel strongly about defending the Constitution, but if you want to fight for your country join the military. They have plenty of things you can do for your country. Don't you have a family and children that care about you? C'mon guys this is getting out of hand. Yes they may ban some of the semi autos, among others, but human life is so much more important.

I'm going down fighting FOR my family and their freedom, I don't want to see any of my family enslaved by tyranny.

I'll give you a break though, being a California liberal speaks volumes, I mean where else have liberals taken the 6th largest economy in the world and completely bankrupt it and turned into to a safe haven for actors and illegals.

[30PlusRetlaw]

Here's the the video again talking about the police and national guard and how they were order to shoot any American that resisted and was a "tread" to safety. You can hear the National Guy saying how wrong this feel to him.