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F this starter! Who the hell places it there?

So I'm replacing my starter and can't get the top bolt on the starter to break loose. I got the 3 heat shields off in a few hours.

Had to hit the store up for a couple univerasl joints for my socket set. That got the bottom on loose but not the top one.

This will be the second day of pb on it so hopefully it breaks loose.

A buddy who's a Toyota / lexus tech said just loosen the head or remove the motor mount bolt and jack that side up. No need to pull everything off.

One f-ing bolt and I'd be finished. Glad I have another car to drive.

But 220k before the starter failed so that's not too shabby.

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What is meant by loosen the head?

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What is meant by loosen the head?
The header or exhaust manifold guess because it's stook it would be the exhaust manifold. Damn 5.7 has it buried.

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the titan starter is under the intake manifold nestled in the V-8. be glad you have a tundra.

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Thanks for the link. I researched this before diving into the project, I'm mostly complaining because I wanted to throw my wrenches all over the yard and that top bolt just won't budge.

And for those that want to know how the dealer does it, it's up to the tech so if they feel like removing header they can do it that way or the quick way with the engine mount. Dealers charge the same 6 hour labor and my buddy could do it in about 3 hours start to finish.

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the titan starter is under the intake manifold nestled in the V-8. be glad you have a tundra.

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Wow, that's crazy! That would have went to a mechanic. I've rebuilt turbos but so I could probably do that but damn that looks like a PITA.

The starter is just trying to spin a flywheel, so why not find the lowest and most accessible spot to put the starter, hell you'd think they could mount it pretty much anywhere that would make more sense on both the tundra and titan.

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I just finished my starter yesterday get a bunch of penetrating lube and leave it sit overnight it will do the trick.
Jack up the engine tho.....I undid the mount bolt placed a 2x6 on the oil pan and tadaaaaa ........u will have a nightmare if u don't lift it The most successful way of putting the heat shields back in is when ur engine is up over an inch.


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I just finished my starter yesterday get a bunch of penetrating lube and leave it sit overnight it will do the trick.
Jack up the engine tho.....I undid the mount bolt placed a 2x6 on the oil pan and tadaaaaa ........u will have a nightmare if u don't lift it The most successful way of putting the heat shields back in is when ur engine is up over an inch.
Yep, soaked them the first evening after I could see the starter. Just sprayed down the top bolt again last night. Hopefully it'll come off today. I was planning on the engine trick as well, wasn't looking forward to removing 10 or 12 bolts off the header.

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Yep, soaked them the first evening after I could see the starter. Just sprayed down the top bolt again last night. Hopefully it'll come off today. I was planning on the engine trick as well, wasn't looking forward to removing 10 or 12 bolts off the header.
Yeah it's gonna be a big mistake if u take those header bolts off, if u don't need to you do t have to.
The funny part is that everyone is scared lifting the engine up an inch lol....
Just do it exactly how the diy said and you are golden.
FYI I didn't just rip the dipstick off I got it out and just pushed it aside...makes the world of a difference.
And like a said 2x6 about a foot or foot and a half long and the jack underneath the oil pan and you did it.


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So if you ask me you should remove the two motor mount bolts jack up the engine the 1 inch then take everything apart. It went back together much easier with the motor raised the 1 inch than not.

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So if you ask me you should remove the two motor mount bolts jack up the engine the 1 inch then take everything apart. It went back together much easier with the motor raised the 1 inch than not.

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FYI u dont need to unbolt the second mount.
Too much for that job.... u are not bending or putting stress on anything, u can loosen it but I wouldn't touch it at all.
This job was wayyyyy easier than my water pump, that's a job u need to remember what goes where! 😒


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This job was wayyyyy easier than my water pump, that's a job u need to remember what goes where! 😒
True that...I remember reading that someone put a long bolt in the wrong hole and it drove out the back and into the cam area and trashed a top end when they started it.

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FYI u dont need to unbolt the second mount.
Too much for that job.... u are not bending or putting stress on anything, u can loosen it but I wouldn't touch it at all.
This job was wayyyyy easier than my water pump, that's a job u need to remember what goes where! 😒
I went with unbolting the two bolts on the frame for the engine mount than the one bolt on the engine mount. I just backed the bolts out about 3/4 of an inch and jacked the motor up till it hit the top of the bolts.

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True that...I remember reading that someone put a long bolt in the wrong hole and it drove out the back and into the cam area and trashed a top end when they started it.
Now that would suck, but from the looks of it the water pump on my truck has been replaced before. It's fairly shiny compared to other parts on it.

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