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Yeah, Klasse is awesome. It works amazing on window trim, and you can use it on anything non porous. I used it on our new washer and dryer yesterday, gave it a great shine.
The bedliner is very porous... so the Klasse may not work on that?



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Oh, you mean a spray on liner? Yeah, that won't help much. Peanut butter and an old tooth brush then for old caked on wax/polish.

I use it a lot on window trim. The black plastic around our mirrors, or the whole mirror for tow mirrors and SR5s. A few years ago my buddy and I restored all the faded plastic front bumper on his Nissan XTerra. All by hand too.
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Lol u have issues

Haha, Klasse was just the base coat. It also got two layers of Zaino Z2. I had to shut the garage door after the delivery truck left. I don't want my neighbors thinking I'm some weirdo that waxes his appliances.
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Haha, Klasse was just the base coat. It also got two layers of Zaino Z2. I had to shut the garage door after the delivery truck left. I don't want my neighbors thinking I'm some weirdo that waxes his appliances.
I believe it lol
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I would really like to know what your background and experience in detailing is.
So Jumbo Jet? What's your background, and experience in auto detailing?

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So Jumbo Jet? What's your background, and experience in auto detailing?
I'd think reading his past entries should suffice. I did it professionally for years, haven't in over a decade but still do a top notch job. I don't let anyone touch my vehicles and I'd let Jumbo do mine without a second thought. The man knows his stuff.


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OK, I've completed the wash, clay bar, M105, M205. I have some pinnacle pre-wax cleanser/polish. DO I really need this? it says it reduces swirl marks and enhances shine, but my polishing job took care of that. Is this a needed step? Seems like something I may use if I didn't use the M105/M205.



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I went ahead and used the Pinnacle Pre-wax. It did make a difference in how the paint felt, a little oilier/smoother. Went on and came off easy.

Then I used the Klasse High Gloss sealant Glaze. Yikes!! Need some guidance here. I applied it really thin as recommended and let it dry. But gettin it to come off was horrible!! I was using detailing clothes and some SERIOUS elbow grease. I tried using my Griots on top of the cloth to get some extra rubbing power, no help.

Anyone have a trick to getting this stuff off easier? I did it, but with a lot of elbow grease, and probably still missed some spots. Have to walk around it today to touch it up.

Autogeek mentioned applying it with some detailing spray and using detailing spray to remove. If this is the trick, what detailing spray do you recommend.

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Can u guys reccomend some products/methods for me? I have an 08 DC Super White. Just got a 3rd gen Griots 6 DA polisher. In the past I have clay bar'd the truck and hand applied wax, mothers products. It looked great but I would like to take it to the next step, nothing too complicated or crazy time consumiing tho. The only issue I have with the paint is on the upper portion of the hood near the windshield. There is a circular dip the length of the hood that water just seems to sit in and now there is dark water marks in the paint that just wont come out. I dont mind spending $ on some good products as long as the results are worth it. I remember some members speaking highly of Menzerna products. Problem is, there are SO many products I dont know where to start and I dont want a 10 step proces!!!

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I went ahead and used the Pinnacle Pre-wax. It did make a difference in how the paint felt, a little oilier/smoother. Went on and came off easy.

Then I used the Klasse High Gloss sealant Glaze. Yikes!! Need some guidance here. I applied it really thin as recommended and let it dry. But gettin it to come off was horrible!! I was using detailing clothes and some SERIOUS elbow grease. I tried using my Griots on top of the cloth to get some extra rubbing power, no help.

Anyone have a trick to getting this stuff off easier? I did it, but with a lot of elbow grease, and probably still missed some spots. Have to walk around it today to touch it up.

Autogeek mentioned applying it with some detailing spray and using detailing spray to remove. If this is the trick, what detailing spray do you recommend.

Thanks guys.
You could have skipped the pre wax cleaner step, but no harm no foul.

Klasse SG needs to be applied thin, very thin. I used to have the same problems with it until I figured it out. Try applying it with a red or black finishing pad, Griots on 2. Lightly spritz the pad first with a detail spray, that will help load the pad and spread the SG more evenly. Allow it to flash up for about 15 minutes or so, then wipe clean. If you see any "ghosting", you should be able to easily remove it by hitting the area with detail spray and wiping clean.

Some detail sprays to try out in the future:

Zaino Z-16- my favorite
Adams Detail Spray- my second favorite
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Can u guys reccomend some products/methods for me? I have an 08 DC Super White. Just got a 3rd gen Griots 6 DA polisher. In the past I have clay bar'd the truck and hand applied wax, mothers products. It looked great but I would like to take it to the next step, nothing too complicated or crazy time consumiing tho. The only issue I have with the paint is on the upper portion of the hood near the windshield. There is a circular dip the length of the hood that water just seems to sit in and now there is dark water marks in the paint that just wont come out. I dont mind spending $ on some good products as long as the results are worth it. I remember some members speaking highly of Menzerna products. Problem is, there are SO many products I dont know where to start and I dont want a 10 step proces!!!

It can be confusing with the Menzerna line, but you'll find yourself only using a few and that's it. We'll make it easy for you with Super White.

Menzerna SIP 1500 - for light to medium/heavy correction
Menzerna SF 4000 - final jeweling polish
Menzerna PowerLock - last step sealant

So two steps and a sealant and you're finished. If you inspect it under the lights and the paint is in good shape, you could get away with SF 4000 and seal. However, if the truck is an 08 and never been corrected before, I'd wash and clay then go straight to 1500, 4000 and PowerLock.

SIP 1500 - orange pad, Griots on 3-4
SF 4000 - white pad, Griots on 2-3
PowerLock - black or red finishing pad, Griots on 2

For any heavier correction, Menzerna FG 400 cutting compound. Use with an orange pad, Griots on 3-4. It will finish down very nicely, then follow it with SF 4000 and seal.

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Good product to clean the dash? Don't want it really shiny like armor all but something to get rid of the white marks when you look at it too hard or when then the woman decides she need to put her feet on the dash
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Please advise. I picked up the truck this last Monday and havent had a chance to get her out in the sun to look her over until today thanks to work and catching a case or SARS or something like that. There are a few minor scratches in the plastic and paint but this on the window I can live with. It looks to me like some monkey with a razor blade scratched the glass when removing the stickers at the dealership. I plan to ask them to fix it but would like to know how it should be done professionally if they arent going to replace the whole piece. Thanks in advance. [ATTACH]IMG_0683.jpg[/ATTACH]
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It can be confusing with the Menzerna line, but you'll find yourself only using a few and that's it. We'll make it easy for you with Super White.

Menzerna SIP 1500 - for light to medium/heavy correction
Menzerna SF 4000 - final jeweling polish
Menzerna PowerLock - last step sealant

So two steps and a sealant and you're finished. If you inspect it under the lights and the paint is in good shape, you could get away with SF 4000 and seal. However, if the truck is an 08 and never been corrected before, I'd wash and clay then go straight to 1500, 4000 and PowerLock.

SIP 1500 - orange pad, Griots on 3-4
SF 4000 - white pad, Griots on 2-3
PowerLock - black or red finishing pad, Griots on 2

For any heavier correction, Menzerna FG 400 cutting compound. Use with an orange pad, Griots on 3-4. It will finish down very nicely, then follow it with SF 4000 and seal.
I'll give that a shot. Thanks really appreciate it!! Is it ok to get griots pads? I thought I read somewhere that they wernt reccomended...

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I'll give that a shot. Thanks really appreciate it!! Is it ok to get griots pads? I thought I read somewhere that they wernt reccomended...

I've never used their pads before. Most people use Lake Country pads. I really like Über pads. I recommend buying the 5" backing plate for your Griots, and using 5.5" flat pads. The 5.5" pads are easier to work with, and the flat pads have a little better cut as they have more surface area covering the paint.

A good start for getting pads would be: 2 orange flat pads, 2 white flat pads and 2 red finishing pads. (Lake Country)
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