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As a two time former hemi owner (04 2wd, 05 4wd), Im gonna address and correct a couple of your points...

The first Id like to just point out to all if it hasnt already been mentioned, is the reason the Dodge computers suck so badly, is the type of air induction system used on the Dodge is a speed density system and not an MAF like the Tundra has. The speed density system will recognize and essentially negate any change in incoming air volume etc., making alot of minor bolt ons ie cais and exhaust etc. pretty much useless. That addresses alot of the issues behind the dodge ecm problems.

Originally Posted by xhemidriver

2nd - the dodge ecm sucks moose d*&k! Even with nos is takes 10-20 passes before the ecm starts to learn and make adjustments. Your should expect the same. I have personlly whatched a Dodge runnin a 125 shot drop 1.5sec in the 1/4 over the span of 10 runs or so from his first pass on nos without making a single change and cutting a consistant 1.6 60 every run.

3rd - all dodges (except the 03's) have a nazi tcm (torque contol management) computer. This is where most of the power to the ground gets lost on the hemi's. The tcm tells the ecm to retard fuel and timing off the line in an effort to eliminate converter slippage. On the 03's you can pull a wire going into the ecm that keeps max tranny pressure at all times and cuts a strong .5 off the 1/4 time. This is the main reason why you can nail a Hemi off the line put he pulls you around the 1000ft mark.

Originally Posted by xhemidriver

4th - Yes stock to stock simular trucks the tundra is faster. make no mistake about it. However a stock 2wd RCSB Hemi with a driver that knows how to use the truck can run 14.4-14.5 all day. If you hesitate, blink, etc you will get beat. 4-5 10ths in the 14 sec class is only 3/4-1 car car length or so.

I hate to be so blunt, but you sir are crazy if you think a stock rcsb dodge will run a 14.5. I never ran mine personally, but the best EVER fully stock time I saw mentioned on any dodge forum was a 14.9. Now, if you are referring to trucks with their tailgates/spares removed etc., they might pull a 14.7 in stock form, but your going to need some type of minor boltons to get you to 14.5s in a reg. cab dodge. Thats in no way a negative on their potential, as with heads/cam, tq converter etc., you can be in the 12s.

Originally Posted by xhemidriver

6th - Top end, any hemi will eat just about anything else on the road given the right driver. (They have the best 2nd gear gearing around) This includes a Tundra, 350Z and will even run door to door with a C5. Its hard to get 5000+ lbs moving but once it does good by. (Agian why you get passed around the 1000ft mark when you have a hemi beat by 1-2 trucks off the line. This goes back the the TCM agian)

Id dare any Hemi with the same mods as me (stock other than exhaust) to even attempt to pass me on the top end. Unless something has greatly changed since the 04 model Hemis, they dont hold a candle to the Tundras in top end.

Originally Posted by xhemidriver

7th - A stock hemi will dyno between 245-265 hp at the wheel not 212 as i have seen posted. (Yes still well shy of the 289-295 of the tundra)

This is very true, most hemis i saw were in the 255ish range. I saw a couple around 270 stock, and a couple around 240, but 212 is insane. However, Ive also seen Tundras in the 320 range, and most ive seen are in the 305-310 range stock.

Originally Posted by xhemidriver

10th - Exhausts are a waste of money. You would have to be putting down 500-600 hp before your exhaust would make a difference. HOWEVER - you should remove your Cat and Muffler and replace them with just regular pipe. If you have emisions to deal with (we have none in Florida) buy a $40 set of old school manual cutouts. $500 exhaust systems are for dummy's.

12th - INTAKES ARE A WASTE OF MONEY - Just pull the stock filter out when you race. (This was good for 1-2 10ths) Any one who knows will tell you that 200cfm (ball park #) is plenty for any motor up to about 4-500 hp. (Except for a deisel with a 20:1 compression ratio) Make a trip to Home Depot. Buy some dryer vent hose, pull your air box and clamp the dryer hose to the intake hose and run it to the bottom front of the truck. This was good for 3 10ths at the track.

I think on dodges this goes back to the speed density system, but I agree that expensive exhaust or cais are mainly a waste of money unless you have added a supercharger or are flowing significantly more air than stock.

Originally Posted by xhemidriver

BASHING HEMI's will get you know where. If you would spend some time asking some of the "Expierenced" Hemi owners they could help you to make your Tundra run Close to a 13.5 1/4 for around $5-600. (2wd RCSB) Maybe even break into the 12sec class for around $1000 or so. I know of several hemis that run low 13's on motor with no more than $2500 Parts. Go to DodgeTruckWorld.COM. Most of them would be glad to help. The only problem may be finding one of us original Hemi Truck guys. Unfortunatly The aftermarket just isn't going to offer too much for the Tundra. Toy likes to keep all thier info to themselves where others share info with the aftermarket.

I agree here also, but also will say, go to any brand truck forum and youll find the same going on of all types other than the brand represented there. They are bashing Tundras on the dodge boards etc. If you dont like the atmosphere here as an ex dodge driver, maybe you should move on to greener pastures, though I doubt youll escape the ridicule on any competitors boards.